me and Gabe have the strangest convo's....

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BentochanZ: *kicks dialup*
ArchangelX777: *does Luigi's taunt to dialup*
BentochanZ: LOL
BentochanZ: Ever heard of the Hays code?
ArchangelX777: Umm . . . not that I can recall.
BentochanZ: Hmmm...you might not get this then (http://www.livejournal.com/community/1000_miles_west/17724.html#cutid1)
BentochanZ: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hays_Code
ArchangelX777: So, the laws of the universe pretty much follow the Hays Code?
BentochanZ: *shrugs* I hope not...
ArchangelX777: In this story I mean.
BentochanZ: Nii did something that made the laws of the universe follow the code-yeah
ArchangelX777: I had understood that the laws of the universe had been changed such that a strong moral code had been built into the fabric of the universe, most likely artificially induced, so I think I would've gotten the idea, if not where they got the Hays Code from.
BentochanZ: he just forgot that it would screw him over...Nii being a villianous high preist and a pervert that he is
BentochanZ: ^_^
ArchangelX777: Hehe.
BentochanZ: I felt bad for Gojyo tho
BentochanZ: being traped in limbo with Nii...*shivers*
ArchangelX777: I don't. He tried to have sex with him!
BentochanZ: well...he is Gojyo
ArchangelX777: I only like Chibi Dancing Gojyo with super hip shaking action.
BentochanZ: LMMFAO
BentochanZ: and once you start reading the manga...I bet Gojyo will be your favorite character
BentochanZ: Hakkai on the other hand will probly scare you a bit
ArchangelX777: I dunno. I like Hakkai.
ArchangelX777: He has a monocle.
BentochanZ: dont get me wrong-he's an awesome character and a nice guy...until he's pushed...he's fucking downright scary at times tho
ArchangelX777: Like Batman!
ArchangelX777: And I like Batman.
BentochanZ: Bruce Wayne is not even near as scary as Hakkai can be...
BentochanZ: Hakkai has freaked out Goku before
ArchangelX777: What about Jean Paul Valley?
BentochanZ: and he has a lot of issues and darkness in him-Fruede would have a feild day with Hakkai
ArchangelX777: He had a robotic suit with bladed knuckles and tried to kill the supervillains.
BentochanZ: much scarier....MUCH scarier
ArchangelX777: He once smashed a guy's face in through that guy's robotic suit, knocked out his teeth, had the guy's face bleeding from everywhere, and hung him from a meathook.
ArchangelX777: And left him locked in the meat locker freezer.
BentochanZ: Hakkai has killed over 1000 people(human and youkai) over the course of roughly 2 months,saw his sister (who he SLEPT with) commit suicide right in front of him imeadatly after said killing spree,ect
ArchangelX777: . . . Yeah, but I'm sure those humans and youkai were asking for it.
ArchangelX777: They probably ruined the ending to a movie he was gonna see.
BentochanZ: yeah they were...but alot of them were innocent peoples
ArchangelX777: I'd do it too if I was going to see episode three and some dude was like "And then Vader force chokes Padme, and Obi wan shows up . . ."
BentochanZ: and no...they kidnapped Kannan...and he went batshit over it
BentochanZ: heh
ArchangelX777: Well, I'm just saying it's a good thing they didn't. Or it would've been 2000.
BentochanZ: heh
BentochanZ: I kinda think that Hakkai might be more messed up than the other 3 combined
ArchangelX777: Possibly.
ArchangelX777: But amnesia is a big deal.
ArchangelX777: As is being a nympho.
BentochanZ: amnesia and nynohoness? Huhwha?
ArchangelX777: Gojyo = teh nympho.
ArchangelX777: And Goku has, like, what, 400 years missing from his memory?
BentochanZ: 500
BentochanZ: and Gojyo isnt a nympho
BentochanZ: he's got a lot of childhood issues tho-Gojyo was an abused child
ArchangelX777: I mean, he's not on Evil T. Bishounen's level, what with the rampant sex with animate objects, but still.
BentochanZ: his having sex with willing girls is a coping mechinism of his dude
ArchangelX777: Being a nympho means you're addicted to sex, not a rapist.
BentochanZ: oh...Gojyo isnt addicted to sex tho
ArchangelX777: That's just what he wants you to think.
BentochanZ: *rolls eyes*
ArchangelX777: http://www.leasticoulddo.com/index2.php?date=20030228
ArchangelX777: That is Gojyo, only without the prescription.
BentochanZ: all four have severe abandonment issues..
Goku-amnesia and a severe fear of being alone
Sanzo-severe guilt issues,childhood trauma(being thrown in the Yatzgee as a baby+ seeing death of Koumyou),fear of being attached others(cause he thinks they'll die on him if he does),and its implied in the Burial Arc that he was raped/molested
Gojyo-product of adultery,abused by Half Bro's mom,Mom tried to kill him,brother saved him only to then abandon him
Hakkai-fucked up childhood in an orphanage,strict Catholic upbringing that he didnt take too well to,commited incest with sister,commited mass murder
BentochanZ: ...and Gojyo isnt THAT perverted! *kicks the comic*
ArchangelX777: I dunno man. Sounds like Hakkai took to the Catholic orphanage upbringing just like he's supposed to.
ArchangelX777: I mean, he did the kinky sex thing AND the mass murder.
ArchangelX777: He lost points in the good book because it wasn't genocide though.
BentochanZ: *shrugs* he once told a Nun that God was incopetent-this was when he was 12 btw
BentochanZ: it kinda was genocide tho...
ArchangelX777: Oh, God's not incompetent. He's just crazy. CRAZY LIKE A FOX!
BentochanZ: lol
BentochanZ: and there is also some speculation(nothing comfirmed tho) that Hakkai and Gojyo might have been raped as kids too
ArchangelX777: Hrm. Well, it'd make sense in Hakkai's case, what with being in a Catholic orphanage.
BentochanZ: *nods*
ArchangelX777: Gojyo, it's a little more odd, but still plausible.
BentochanZ: we dont know what happened to either Gojyo or Hakkai between the ages of 12-19
BentochanZ: or to Sanzo from age 13-17
ArchangelX777: So they've all suffered mental trauma, Goku's the most evident and probably deepest, even if not the worst case.
ArchangelX777: I mean, his was for five hundred years and caused amnesia.
BentochanZ: yeah...Goku was afraid of SNOW for a long while
ArchangelX777: Snow IS scary.
ArchangelX777: I mean, ice falling from the sky in crystalline shards.
BentochanZ: he was scared cause when he was in the mountain...it took all the sound away
ArchangelX777: Ooh, yeah. That does make things a bit weird.
BentochanZ: consider where he was tho...
ArchangelX777: No, I mean the snow would make it weird and creepy up there.
BentochanZ: yeah...poor kid
ArchangelX777: Because really, if you can only see the same thing all the time, and he can't touch new things, and he can't eat a wide variety I imagine, snow would take away the two things left: Smell and hearing.
BentochanZ: yep
BentochanZ: and he didnt eat anything for 500 years
ArchangelX777: I figured it was either that, or he was delivered really crappy rations.
ArchangelX777: Or subsisted on wild grains that grew near.
ArchangelX777: Is that why he's always starving?
BentochanZ: yep-cause he had no food for 500 years
ArchangelX777: And here I thought it was because he was an alien from another world with a higher energy output and thus a greatly increased metabolism.
BentochanZ: o_O
ArchangelX777: I guess I'd be a mite peckish after 500 years.
BentochanZ: yeah
ArchangelX777: That was a DBZ joke, btw.
BentochanZ: I know
ArchangelX777: Oh, okay. I figured you'd get it, but you looked confuzzled.
BentochanZ: it took a sec
BentochanZ: when Sanzo took Goku to an inn/resterant to get food after he rescued him...Goku ate practically all the food the place had
ArchangelX777: *nods* Sounds like a Goku to me.
ArchangelX777: Whenever I hear his Chinese name, it makes me think of Donkey Kong.
ArchangelX777: But old school Donkey Kong, when he threw barrels and Mario jumped over them.
BentochanZ: LOL
ArchangelX777: Son Wukong, right?
BentochanZ: yep
BentochanZ: and Sanzang is based on a real monk too
ArchangelX777: Tripitaka, right?
BentochanZ: yep...I forget what the real life monks name was tho
ArchangelX777: *shrugs* Most people are based off of someone.
BentochanZ: yep
ArchangelX777: Kenshin Himura was based off of a guy too. Really could block bullets, they say.
ArchangelX777: He gotted hung around when the first episode was supposed to happen.
BentochanZ: most of the characters in Kenshin were based off of real peoples
BentochanZ: he got HUNG?
ArchangelX777: Yeah.
ArchangelX777: That's how they executed him.
BentochanZ: daaaaanm...ouchies
ArchangelX777: I forget why, but I think he was advocating peace.
ArchangelX777: And so they hung him.
BentochanZ: o_O
ArchangelX777: This was shortly after the war.
BentochanZ: danm
ArchangelX777: So, within one year of Meiji, they killed him.
BentochanZ: that sucks
ArchangelX777: *nods*
ArchangelX777:I find it funny that this simple tale of a man on a quest to disperse his religion throughout the land has so many interpretations that deviate from the main focus.
BentochanZ: ^_^
ArchangelX777: I mean, while Saiyuki is obviously more true to the source material than DBZ, both go off on tangents that don't really have much to do with the main storyline.
BentochanZ: yeah...and they guys dont act like their legendary counterparts at all
ArchangelX777: Whereas DBZ chooses to focus on Goku rather than their interpretation of the questing monk, Saiyuki diverts their quest into one of safeguarding reality as we know it.
BentochanZ: Sanzo would give Tripitaka a fucking anuerism
ArchangelX777: There's that as well. There are very few relations between the source characters and those that were created from them.
ArchangelX777: As would Bulma.
BentochanZ: yeah she would
BentochanZ: Sanzo more than Bulma tho I think...
ArchangelX777: Bulma, while on a quest much like Tripitaka, was motivated only by greed and self interest, not the good of mankind.
BentochanZ: yeah
ArchangelX777: I dunno. I mean, at least Sanzo still protects people.
BentochanZ: Sanzo doesnt like to tho
ArchangelX777: His quest follows the intent, if not the actual path, of his progenitor.
BentochanZ: *nods*
ArchangelX777: Well, you don't really have to LIKE life to be good at it. I'd argue that you're usually better at things if you don't like them.
BentochanZ: heeheehee...yeah
BentochanZ: poor Sanzo
ArchangelX777: When you feel something needs to be done and you don't like it, you have a penchant for doing it right so you don't have to do it again for a while.
BentochanZ: true-and Sanzo aptly demonstrates that over and over
BentochanZ: grumbling all the way
ArchangelX777: Exactly. Whereas Bulma is nigh useless in Dragon Ball.
ArchangelX777: She's more a convenient plot device rather than a character when it comes to getting things done.
BentochanZ: very very true...and she's a slut
ArchangelX777: I think she's a bit boy crazy, yes, but I think slut is a little harsh.
BentochanZ: *shrugs* mabye
ArchangelX777: How does Tenshinhan fit into Saiyuki?
BentochanZ: he doesnt-neither does any DB character after the first 13 eps
BentochanZ: hell...Pilaf,Mai,and Shu dont really fit either
ArchangelX777: I thought Tenshinhan was part of the original myth though.
BentochanZ: not that I know of
BentochanZ: and he didnt show up till mid to late DB
ArchangelX777: *nods*
BentochanZ: scariest thing is that Roshi is the DB equivalent of Kuan-yin...
ArchangelX777: Why's that so scary?
BentochanZ: cause Roshi is such a pervert
ArchangelX777: Kuan-yin isn't then, obviously.
BentochanZ: no...she's the God/Goddess of Mercy and Compassion
ArchangelX777: . . . okay, that's seriously messed up.
BentochanZ: yeah it is
BentochanZ: Kanzeon Bosatsu luckily isnt like Roshi
ArchangelX777: Yeah.
BentochanZ: I seriously need to read Journey to the West...I really do
ArchangelX777: I read a synopsis of it in high school for world history.
ArchangelX777: I distinctly remember it focusing on Goku's encounter with Tenshinhan for some reason.
BentochanZ: hmm...weird
ArchangelX777: They pointed out that wasn't the point of the story, but they really liked it.
BentochanZ: describe this
ArchangelX777: I don't really remember. This was . . . 1999?
BentochanZ: poopies
ArchangelX777: It was just an outline, anyways. But Tenshinhan was the god of clouds or the sky I think.
BentochanZ: hmmm
ArchangelX777: The nimbus may or may not have been involved.
ArchangelX777: I rather think it was, because I'd only seen DBZ maybe three times at this point, and it was years before.
BentochanZ: heh
BentochanZ: Kintoun is usually a Goku item
BentochanZ: dunno how Wukong got it tho
BentochanZ: its a good thing Sanzo cant do the tightening headband thing to Goku that Tripitaka can do to Wukong...
BentochanZ: Goku'd have a permanent headache
ArchangelX777: Is it like Inuyasha and Kagome's masochistic choke collar?
BentochanZ: sorta
ArchangelX777: I'm pretty sure the youkai limiter is meant to simulate that as best as possible without providing characterization conflict.
BentochanZ: lmao
BentochanZ: the limiter doesnt cause pain tho
ArchangelX777: Well, yeah.
ArchangelX777: Because if it did, Sanzo would go apeshit with it.
BentochanZ: Hell yeah he would!
ArchangelX777: So they dropped out the pain part so it could still do its job without interfering in their quest or their interpretation of Sanzo.
BentochanZ: :-D
BentochanZ: much to Goku's relief
ArchangelX777: And I'm sure to Sanzo's.
ArchangelX777: If there was a button that needed to be pressed or something, Sanzo would break his damn finger on the thing.
BentochanZ: *snerk*